{"id":1067,"date":"2009-10-24T16:00:39","date_gmt":"2009-10-24T23:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/?p=1067"},"modified":"2009-10-08T09:37:40","modified_gmt":"2009-10-08T16:37:40","slug":"top-posting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/top-posting\/","title":{"rendered":"Top posting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before I started working at Microsoft, I used to always reply to emails by quoting them, breaking up the quoted text into pieces and then replying to each of the pieces directly below, for example:<\/p>\n<pre>From: andrew@reenigne.org\r\nTo: xyz@example.com\r\nSubject: Re: Hello\r\n\r\nXyz &lt;xyz@example.com&gt; wrote:\r\n&gt; Hello,\r\n\r\nHello!\r\n\r\n&gt; how are you today\r\n\r\nI'm fine, thank you.<\/pre>\n<p>This style is called <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Posting_style\">inline replying with trimming<\/a>. This is a fine system because the person I&#8217;m replying to gets reminded of what they wrote, and I don&#8217;t have to write things like &#8220;In regards to the part of your email where you asked me how I was today,&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The most common other system is top posting, which looks like this:<\/p>\n<pre>From: andrew@reenigne.org\r\nTo: xyz@example.com\r\nSubject: Re: Hello\r\n\r\nHello! I'm fine, thank you.\r\n\r\nXyz &lt;xyz@example.com&gt; wrote:\r\n&gt; Hello, how are you today<\/pre>\n<p>This is the natural default with Microsoft Outlook. In the geek circles I had moved in before working at Microsoft, this style was greatly frowned upon. However, it is ubiquitous at Microsoft. I&#8217;m not sure whether this is because it&#8217;s the default style in Outlook or whether it&#8217;s the default style in Outlook because it is ubiquitous at Microsoft. However, once I had forced myself to &#8220;do as the Romans do&#8221; and top post, I found that it does actually make more sense in that environment. This is for two reasons:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>When the conversation falters due to lack of knowledge about something, it&#8217;s very common to &#8220;loop in&#8221; an expert to give their two cents by adding them to the CC line. In order for the expert to have some context, it&#8217;s useful to have the previous history of the conversation right there in the email, so he or she can read it (bottom to top).<\/li>\n<li>With each email carrying the entire thread, emails can get pretty long. It&#8217;s inconvenient to have to scroll all the way to the bottom of each email to see the latest reply (especially if you&#8217;re just a spectator rather than a contributor to a busy thread) so it&#8217;s better for the replies to be at the top than at the bottom.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>It&#8217;s still useful to reply inline as well sometimes &#8211; at Microsoft this is done by quoting the email you&#8217;re replying two twice &#8211; once, in its entirety, at the bottom and once (suitably chopped and trimmed) inline. I used to do this quite frequently as it&#8217;s the best way I&#8217;ve found (pre-<a href=\"http:\/\/argulator.com\">Argulator<\/a>) of addressing each point individually. However, one of my managers once told me that if the conversation got sufficiently complex that I felt it was best to do that, I should instead &#8220;take it offline&#8221; and schedule a face-to-face meeting instead to hash out these issues. However, I felt (and still feel) that inline email replies are better than face-to-face meetings for such complicated issues &#8211; in face to face meetings there&#8217;s less time to think about your answer, and points can get lost &#8211; as the conversation progresses it can only follow one &#8220;branch&#8221; of the argument tree, and without explicitly maintaining a stack it&#8217;s very easy for branches to get forgotten about.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before I started working at Microsoft, I used to always reply to emails by quoting them, breaking up the quoted text into pieces and then replying to each of the pieces directly below, for example: From: andrew@reenigne.org To: xyz@example.com Subject: Re: Hello Xyz &lt;xyz@example.com&gt; wrote: &gt; Hello, Hello! &gt; how are you today I&#8217;m fine, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-computer"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1067","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1067"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1067\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1070,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1067\/revisions\/1070"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1067"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1067"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.reenigne.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1067"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}